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 I used one last year. They sponsored D&DH TV that I have a tip segment on. So, the D&DH guys gave me two of them. Except for one lazy sit with a gun, when all I was doing was filling my last doe tag, I took the same odor control steps I do when I didn’t use one, and most would say I take odor control to the extreme. So, I hesitate to say too much, based on only 1 real test, as the air currents could have been and often are deceiving.For what it’s worth, the 1 time I didn’t take odor control steps, I had about 10 deer seemingly downwind that didn’t pay any attention at all. Honestly, that makes me question if the odor stream was indeed hitting them.The reason for that question is that O3 gives off an odor. A couple of other times I took the odor control steps and had deer seemingly down wind, they appeared to pickup
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the O3 odor. They raised their heads, took a couple sniffs and then dismissed it.That falls in line with what I’ve been told by the guys I know/trust that use it a lot. They tell me that deer commonly smell the O3 but are rarely spooked by it and don’t pick up their odors. However, they also tell me that you really need to use 2 units, one over both shoulder or one over your head and another on the backside of the tree to really cover you from shifting wind directions (1 is supposedly fine in a ground blind, so long as you close off the backside windows).One other thing I can add is that using them gave me headaches a couple times, when I ended up breathing it in most or all sit.Finally, my theory on it is that it works, for now. for one, I deodorized my workout sneakers with them by placing a unit and my shoes in a container for a couple hours. I strongly believe that one can train deer to fear or accept virtually anything. I am certain that deer can smell the O3, but very few have yet to be trained that it’s a problem and it isn’t associated with anything they currently think of as danger. If its popularity and use continues to increase, I suspect that will change. Take all of this with a grain of salt. As I said, I only used a pair about 10 times, which is no where close to enough to come to any firm conclusions on my own. The rest is based on opinions/experiences of those I personally trust not to feed me a line. |
I used one last year. They sponsored D&DH TV that I have a tip segment on. So, the D&DH guys gave me two of them. Except for one lazy sit with a gun, when all I was doing was filling my last doe tag, I took the same odor control steps I do when I didn’t use one, and most would say I take odor control to the extreme. So, I hesitate to say too much, based on only 1 real test, as the air currents could have been and often are deceiving.
For what it’s worth, the 1 time I didn’t take odor control steps, I had about 10 deer seemingly downwind that didn’t pay any attention at all. Honestly, that makes me question if the odor stream was indeed hitting them.
ozone machines
The reason for that question is that O3 gives off an odor. A couple of other times I took the odor control steps and had deer seemingly down wind, they appeared to pickup the O3 odor. They raised their heads, took a couple sniffs and then dismissed it.
That falls in line with what I’ve been told by the guys I know/trust that use it a lot. They tell me that deer commonly smell the O3 but are rarely spooked by it and don’t pick up their odors. However, they also tell me that you really need to use 2 units, one over both shoulder or one over your head and another on the backside of the tree to really cover you from shifting wind directions (1 is supposedly fine in a ground blind, so long as you close off the backside windows).
One other thing I can add is that using them gave me headaches a couple times, when I ended up breathing it in most or all sit.
Finally, my theory on it is that it works, for now. for one, I deodorized my workout sneakers with them by placing a unit and my shoes in a container for a couple hours. I strongly believe that one can train deer to fear or accept virtually anything. I am certain that deer can smell the O3, but very few have yet to be trained that it’s a problem and it isn’t associated with anything they currently think of as danger. If its popularity and use continues to increase, I suspect that will change.
Take all of this with a grain of salt. As I said, I only used a pair about 10 times, which is no where close to enough to come to any firm conclusions on my own. The rest is based on opinions/experiences of those I personally trust not to feed me a line.
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Originally Posted by Billb66
 Steve, thanks for the tip on using 2 at a time. I’ve never heard of that. But what a pain to lug 2 of those and a bow.
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It was pro staffers and those sponsored by Ozonics that told me the 2 unit trick. I know 7 of them and 7 out of 7 use 2 when in a treestand. That said, I’m guessing they don’t publicize that much, as Ozonics advertises 1 being enough, and it may be. At the same time, most of these guys are being filmed, putting 2 people in the tree. However, they do the same when hunting by themselves.
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Originally Posted by dipper
Steve could you elaborate on how you got a headache? Was the vabor blowing into your face? How long? etc.? That is real scarey. I don’t care how much it controls my scent. If some machinge sends out vapors, that give me a headache, no way! I don’t care if it happens while sitting in a wide open tree or a box blind. Common sense tells me that: if this thing gives me a headache, it isn’t good.What is it sending out exactly?
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It’s sending out O3, which is ozone.
The first time I got a headache was 100% my fault. I was using 1 unit in a popup blind, faced back into the blind and in treestand mode (treestand mode is full blast, where as blind mode is a reduced rate). It was the first time I used Ozonics and didn’t know what I was doing.
The other time I just had one over each shoulder. It was an extremely light, often changing wind. I just sucked too much down my lungs. The other 8ish times were fine, including a couple more uses in blinds.
I’ll be honest. I’ll probably not use the Ozonics units much anymore. No, not because I don’t believe they work (I believe they do). I’m just too anal to stop doing all the stuff I already do to fight odors and hate carrying extra stuff in the woods with me. I don’t believe I would have gotten winded any of the times I had deer seemingly downwind anyway, because of what I already do, and it appeared that, as others have told me, some deer did pickup on the O3. Now, they didn’t spook, but why put them even a little on edge if I don’t believe it is giving me personally an advantage?
Also, setting up 1 unit takes time, doing 2 obviously takes more. I also think they should seriously look at their attachment system. I have to believe that it could be made easier.
Heater Body Suit will be offering an option of a small O3 unit to be worn in their suits this year. They had some people test it this past year (I was one of them). I’ll probably use that whenever I use my Heater Body Suit.
Long way of saying, I just like testing most any odor control product out there. I think it would help most hunters, but it’s just not really for me in most situations. I like/trust my own system too much.
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Originally Posted by Billb66
I’d take you up on that but I think I’m committed to one at least for my clothing.
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I think that’s a decent use, but keep one thing in mind. According to the little bit of research I did, what I was told and my workout shoe experiment, O3 doesn’t really kill odors. It essentially masks them and it is not permanent. My shoes started stinking again after being out of the container for a while, before reuse. I could smell them again the next day. I’ve been meaning to repeat the “test” and try to get an idea of exactly how long it takes before I can smell them again.
Also, a couple guys I know do what you are considering. They both claim that one has to essentially stir the container a few times to get the O3 more evenly distributed over all the clothing and gear. I have no clue if that’s true or not, just that they believe it.
Finally, I’d 2nd what Bull said about getting a 2nd battery. Even just using them on a fraction of my sits, it was a real pain until the D&DH guys gave me extra batteries.
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Originally Posted by fuldraw
if they do work but give off a difference Oder that Either masks or Eliminate your smell poor woodmans skill will make them Associate that smell with danger on future hunts IMO
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I believe that there is a very high likelihood of that occurring, particularly on heavily hunted deer where it’s being used somewhat often. I don’t believe it’s really much of a problem, and certainly not wide spread, if it is problem at all yet, but I do see that as a legit concern.
At the same time, I wonder what would have happened if those deer I used it on had been heavily hunted deer instead? I can get away with a lot more sins on the grounds I manage than I ever can on the public land deer I hunt. They probably wouldn’t already associate it with danger, but the more mature ones rarely care for anything out of the ordinary, regardless of it’s something that’s bit them in the butt before or not. I honestly don’t know, but wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they were as quick to dismiss this new odor as harmless.